make it so the change db window checks the db for correctness and does not write it unless is ok. that way wont get error on entry i guess DONE do a refresh function in the form to reload all the combos etc... do a check so dont insert crap dates maybe the database does this for me probably does make sure can insert from csv data fix prob with table creation primary key has to be a number ok in this case usse a create table statement its much better work out this date shit so they are kept in yank format but converted after the query. probably only need to parse when retrieving as sending them seems to convert automaitcally